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booga
04-Aug-2008, 09:42
Howdy again all,

My last post was taken a different way, but not in a bad way, movin has provided a great post and without taking that away, or anyone elses enthralling stories and descriptions, I would start a more descriptive thread... ;)

Thus this is the "What to take on tour" thread, and we can compile a cheaklist based on type and length of tours, ie, a day tour wont be needing a tent or sleeping bag... :grin:

This will hopefully become a Sticky for this group, and will provide all the nessecary information as a refference and we wont forget those little things.

As information comes to hand I might create a spreadsheet or something thats easier to read than going through a bunch of posts, and people can then d/l that and even print it out to tick off as they go along. :grin:
(Hopefully Jason and Vic can provide us with a few kb's of space to host this file ;) )

I will create them in Excel, but can be read by the free Open Office for those who dont have MS Office :)

So... start posting ;)

Toecutter
04-Aug-2008, 10:22
Bit Americanized, but same stuff...

Basic Motorcycle Camping List
Tent
Ground cloth
Sleeping bag
Sleeping pad
LED headlamp, flashlight(s)
Maps
Water
Non-perishable food
Motorcycle Safety Reference Card

It's amazing how far you can go and what you can do with just those items listed above (and some riders would forego the food and only grab some eats on the run). However, most camping motorcycle riders may not be inclined to travel that lightly. So...what follows is an expanded list for the rest of us. And it probably can't be emphasized too much that all items should be as small as possible. And whatever you bring needs to be compactible and/or sturdy enough to survive the adventures of motorcycle travel. Many of these items can be stored in Ziploc bags which will protect them from the elements and keep them readily identifiable which makes them easy to grab.

Safety/Utility
First Aid kit
Water containers
Toothpaste/brush
Hand sanitizer (or soap)
Thermometer
Compass
Knife
Cord
Hatchet
Sunscreen
Bug repellant
Shovel
Extra Ziploc bags
Small trash bags
Camera, batteries and extra media cards
Clothes
Underwear
Socks
Shorts
Shirts
Pants
Light jacket
Bathing suit
Hat
Sandals
Towel
Rain gear

The quantity of a camping rider's stored clothing is highly personalized. Depending upon the extend of the trip, and the season, some motorcycle riders may bring very, very little in the way of extra clothes. Other's may bring more than what might seem necessary. Such choices are simply weighed against your storage capacity, and relative to the other camping items you will be carrying. Of course, if you are riding, camping and carrying gear for two persons on your bike, then you would likely be even more selective about what you will fit into your available storage space.

Cooking
Waterproof matches
Stove/Fuel
Cooking kit
Cooking utensils
Eating utensils
Can opener
Cleaning supplies
Some bikers love to cook and bring along mini-kitchens. Some riders don't cook at all, and do not bring any cooking gear, choosing instead to eat on the road, eat prepared foods, or non-perishables, and/or eat groceries that do not require fire, pots and pans. What's your style?

Basic Eating
Water
Food bars
Nuts
Coffee/tea
Dehydrated items
Pita bread (or any food that can be readily stuffed into motorcycle bags)
This much abbreviated "Basic Eating" list only focuses on a small portion of the practical, non-perishable food items that are useful for a motorcycle camping rider. These noted items do not need to be cooked! Of course any perishable food items that you prefer are limited only by your cooling and cooking capacity. Heck, we went motorcycle camping one year in Southern California with an entire Thanksgiving meal, including all the trimmings! (Everything was pre-cooked at home and we only brought along enough turkey for the weekend). Even a small cooler can considerably expand your dining choices while picking up ice and groceries on the road.

Motorcycle Gear
Helmet
Sunglasses
Motorcycle jacket
Motorcycle pants
Motorcycle boots
Motorcycle gloves
Ear plugs
Motorcycle kidney belt (really makes long-distance riding more comfortable)
Rain Gear
Tire pressure gauge
Tire repair kit
Pump or CO2 cartridges for tire inflation
Tool kit
Chain lube (No need for shaft- or belt-drive bikes)
Duct tape
Cell phone and charger (I will plug a charger in at a restaurant while traveling on the road)

Toecutter
04-Aug-2008, 10:35
In addition to the above, find it much easier to pack, self inflating mattress, sleeping bag, bag of clothes and tent in a BIG waterproof bag and strap to rack across top of panniers - so all stays dry.

Panniers then full of the miscellaneous/heavier stuff - always take more tools than I know what to do with, Slime Pump very compact, and works well.

Radio, iPod, camera and associated chargers.

Comfort; a lightweight alloy camping chair, sandshoes and thongs

And use a Coleman Petrol stove

Roscoe
04-Aug-2008, 11:09
The list from my Excel spreadsheet and picture of the bike loaded up for a full tour - http://aamu.smugmug.com/photos/310311319_wjTy9-L.jpg

Full Tour

Clothing

Boots
Flip-flops
Socks
Undies
Thermals
Hankies
Wet Weather Pants
Shorts
Track Pants
Hat

Food / Drink

Cooker & Gas
Water Bottles
Food
Spork & Pliers
Cup, Bowel, Pot
Snacks
Salt, Pepper & Sugar
Knife
Hand towel
Plastic Bags

Medical

Asthma Spray
Headache tablets
Medical Kit
Soap

Bike Clothing

Jacket
Wet Weather Insert
Winter Lining
Jeans
Winter Gloves
Summer Gloves
Clear Visor
Tinted Visor
Half Balaclava
Ear Plugs

Tools

Shifter & Allen Keys
Cable Ties
Electrical Tape
Chain Oil
Fuses
Tire Repair Kit
Rubber Gloves
Rags
Pump
Wire
Multi Tool
Velcro Straps

Camping

Tent / Swag
Rubber Mallet
Sleeping Bag
Matrass
Seat
Torch
Radio
Toilet Paper
Toothbrush & Paste
Deodorant
Matches
Razor
Mosquito Replant
Towel
Cord
Batteries

Maps & Notes

Maps
Notebook & Pen
Book
GPS
Camera & Charger
Phone & Charger
Helmet Audio

Before Leaving

Spray gloves
Routes to GPS
POI's to GPS
Music on GPS
GPS on bike
Setup Helmet Audio
Manuals in panniers
Charge Camera
Charge Phone
Check Torches & Radio

Simple or Overnight (no camping)

Clothing

Boots
Flip-flops
Socks
Undies
Thermals
Hankies
Wet Weather Pants
Shorts
Track Pants
Hat

Food / Drink

Water Bottles
Snacks

Medical

Asthma Spray
Headache tablets
Medical Kit

Bike Clothing

Jacket
Wet Weather Insert
Winter Lining
Dragin Jeans
Winter Gloves
Summer Gloves
Clear Visor
Tinted Visor
Half Balaclava
Ear Plugs

Tools

Shifter & Allen Keys
Cable Ties
Electrical Tape
Chain Oil
Fuses
Tire Repair Kit
Rubber Gloves
Rags
Pump
Wire
Multi Tool
Velcro Straps

Overnight

Toothbrush & Paste
Deodorant
Razor

Maps & Notes

Maps
Notebook & Pen
GPS
Camera & Charger
Phone & Charger
Helmet Audio

Before Leaving

Spray gloves
Routes to GPS
POI's to GPS
Music on GPS
GPS on bike
Setup Helmet Audio
Charge Camera
Charge Phone

EDIT: Updated the list a little.

Griffon
05-Aug-2008, 06:31
What if we also ran a few ideas up the flagpole to rationalize the lists.

For example Toecutter lists a hachet, and Roscoe lists a rubber mallet for camping. What if the rubber mallet was deleted, you could use the back of the hatchet for hammering tent pegs as well as cutting wood.

Is there anything you would likely need a rubber mallet for that you could not do with a Hatchet?

There has to be other items that can be used for more than one purpose.

I reckon it is also worth discussing when traveling in a group things that need not be duplicated. For example you may not need more than one #2 phillips screw driver so perhaps one could carry that and a shifter and another carry... say the pair of tyre levers. Speaking of tyre levers, I have a pair made of forged aluminium; spoons one end, ring spannes the other.

booga
05-Aug-2008, 07:15
Grif - thats a great idea, I was thinking if I would even carry either of those, but in the bush on a more serious offroad tour, I could see how they could be handy, so multipurpose'ing a tool is a great idea. :grin:

And very +1 to the group tour, personally I wouldn't go on tour without at least 1 more person, and the person with the panniers can carry the world :rofl: (personal joke ;) ) ... but cartainly we could have an area on the spreadsheet that will have a need of only a set number of items per group. :grin:

Mouth
05-Aug-2008, 10:53
... create a spreadsheet or something thats easier to read than going through a bunch of posts, and people can then d/l that and even print it out to tick off as they go along. :grin:
(Hopefully Jason and Vic can provide us with a few kb's of space to host this file ;) )
Yup, no problems there.

donski1
05-Aug-2008, 11:18
First Aid Kit - overrated IMHO. There really isn't too much that can't be improvised from other items being carried. (Excluding personal meds eg. ventolin, insulin, adrenaline etc).
Infection control - well you're already wearing gloves and the risk of any nasties being transmitted mouth-to-mouth is so negligible so as to be not worth considering.
The only life saving kit that the average joe carries is possibly pressure/compression bandages for arterial bleeds, but these can be improvised from clothing. 100-mile-hour tape is great stuff. Triangular bandages - t-shirts, emergency blankets - useless, panadol - HTFU (won't touch the sides if anything remotely really painful occurs.
Everything else is generally nice-to-have stuff that, if space is limited, can wait til you reach civilisation. May sound odd coming from an ex-ambo, but all I carry are shears and duct tape.

lil
05-Aug-2008, 22:07
Good idea, Booga!

We are big fans of cigarette socket type chargers on the bikes and have found a mini compressor that will pump up tyres from the bike battery.

Spare helmet visor

A good book

Cable ties

Spare bike key (in a safe and well remembered spot :wink: )

Pencil and piece of paper (pens don't always work when you want them to and they have a tendency to run :shock: )

A couple of pairs of medical type rubber gloves (so I don't get oil/crap/dirt in my gloves

A soft pack of baby wipes and tissues

If you normally wear contact lenses, don't forget to take a spare pair and your glasses!

We have travel size toiletries and towels, so we don't use too much room

Spare hairties

I.C.E phone numbers in wallet

Camera and spare memory card

I'm sure I'll think of more soon :oops:

endurotour
10-Sep-2008, 21:20
I am a fan of the EPIRB, the cost i am currently not sure off as they are changing the way they work, but if like me you ride scrub / outback solo they are good, keep the important stuff in a bum bag / pocket etc i would suggest as worse case you get thrown from the bike then you dont have to crawl to the bike / lift it etc.. also the whole water proof thing... but there is soo much info out there these days.. either way its always fun...

Lennyburger
05-Oct-2008, 08:57
Noone here has thought to bring a spare chain link. It's happened to me half a dozen times, when the chain jumps of the sprockets or it just comes apart for some unknown reason. If I hadn't been carrying a tiny little link I would've been extending my trip by days [ and it was only half hour from home ] :P
I don't know if they have a motorcycle sized chain breaker but it beats trying to chisel off a bent link with a screwdriver and shifter against a piece of alluvial rock, breaking into pieces every time you hit it, flies buzzing around your sweaty forehead, blood oozing out of the index finger.......
I think I'm going to go and buy one now!

endurotour
05-Oct-2008, 11:22
I don't know if they have a motorcycle sized chain breaker but it beats trying to chisel off a bent link with a screwdriver and shifter against a piece of alluvial rock, breaking into pieces every time you hit it, flies buzzing around your sweaty forehead, blood oozing out of the index finger.......
I think I'm going to go and buy one now!

I use a nit of the Ballards gear, they have a small chain brake/joiner which is used in conjunction with two ballards tyre irons that have socket holes cut in, so you can removing chain rivots, pins etc, as well as re joni them as required, on the spare link, good to carry a few of the size's, 520/530 etc, as it is often the mates you ride with your helping.. cheers al

# I take no responsabililty for anyone that starts to look at the ballard catalog :-)

jazzfan
07-Oct-2008, 22:45
I am a fan of the EPIRB, the cost i am currently not sure off as they are changing the way they work, but if like me you ride scrub / outback solo they are good, keep the important stuff in a bum bag / pocket etc i would suggest as worse case you get thrown from the bike then you dont have to crawl to the bike / lift it etc.. also the whole water proof thing... but there is soo much info out there these days.. either way its always fun...

I've been thinking of getting one of these too... Funny actually as I don't even have a mobile phone. I looked at getting a phone, but the coverage is pretty patchy down here. But I think I need something - I've heard a couple of stories of blokes coming to grief on an isolated road/track and waiting for hours in agony. One bloke probably wouldn't have been found at all if he hadn't of found a coke can which he put on the end of a stick and wiggled about.